Episode 5

Defending the Rules-Based International Order

In this special episode, Johanna is joined by Michele G. Markoff, Deputy Coordinator for Cyber Issues at the US Department of State, and Heli Tiirmaa-Klaar, Director of the Digital Society Institute at the European School of Management and Technology, Berlin.

The episode is prompted by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which the Australian National University (ANU) and Tech Policy Design Centre strongly condemn. The trio discuss the intersection of cyber issues and international law, and touch on the history of cyber negotiations and how the attitudes and threat perceptions of states have changed over time.

Relevant Links:

Donate to the International Committee of the Red Cross – Ukraine: https://www.icrc.org/en/donate/ukraine

Active Measures: The Secret History of Disinformation and Political Warfare by Thomas Rid: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45892235-active-measures

The Red Web: The Struggle Between Russia’s Digital Dictators and the New Online Revolutionaries: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24945323-the-red-web

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Michele Markoff on Twitter: @MarkoffMichele

US Department of State on Twitter: @StateDept

Heli-Tiirma Klaar on Twitter: @HeliKlaar

European School of Management Berlin on Twitter: @esmtberlin

Tech Policy Design Centre on Twitter: @TPDesignCentre